Except this is bullshit. You play a play style that in ANY other game would be constituted as "Griefing" i.e deliberately upsetting other players in attempt to get "your rocks off". In ANY other game you would have warnings, temps bangs and then perma bans.

Yet in this cess pit CCP is now starting to realise that allowing this type of game play is in fact killing the game. In the last two years we have lost close to 22 THOUSAND players who have quit in disgust. So yet, with the base fact evidence that we are not retaining new players, you continue this play style with one goal in mind. To take down EvE and say "yeh we did that".

Which shows a disgusting mindset. No, all of you, griefers, need to be stopped so eve can grow. So eve can retain new players who can look after children and afk mine to make ISK, who can log in in super shiny ships they earned and feel safe flying about in empire space.

If you want loot so badly, go low/null/wh's and fight for it, but you don't, you spout "risk vs reward" like it's a shield, yet when a player i.e me suggested link alt's become *suspect* as soon as they enter the field, what did u all do? You war decked the **** out of the corp i was in and forced it to disband as we had 2k+ players on us in a 15 man corps.

Why should we Risk our stuff to get rewards when you risk NOTHING to get yours, ganking is NOT RISK VS REWARD, death is a certainty when ganking i.e so it is not BY LOGIC Risk vs reward. The shield you hide behind is complete and utter rubbish, you use a motto of the game to do one thing.

Grief other players in an attempt to **** as many people off as possible and call is "risk vs reward" when you infact risk nothing as u know you will loose your ship so by definition of "risk". No, there is no risk, its a certainty you will loose your ship so BY EXTENSION OF YOUR LOGIC it is pre planned assault on another player.

So stop spouting your crap like it means anything. Griefers are the biggest cowards in the game and always will be.

You dont dare head to real pvp areas because you would get slapped sideways so much by real players, you'd realise what you call pvp is infact ganking and griefing and NOT pvp.

GTFO

LetGÇÖs not forget - if you have two bumping machs, there is no counter, whatsoever. HowGÇÖs that for good mechanics?

Oh and when I say that the fact that you can gank those bumpers cannot be considered an acceptable reliable counter, I get flamed, but let me repeat it GÇô ganking bumpers cannot be considered a legitimate counter. Why? Well ganking bumper is a consequence-laden act (loss of ship, sec status and providing a killright) countering something which can be done without any consequence at all while still acting in an aggressive role (aggression-free warp disruption).

Simple, have you tried to do any anti-ganking, I have focussed here on making it so that there mechanics enable actual PvP so that people in the hisec sandbox can actually have an impact on their own sandbox, rather than just take hits with no way to fight back, with my suggestions they can fight back in the Eve way which is blowing up pixels that matter.

You keep missing out that I highlighted freighters as being the reason for the 2 hours suspect timer, its important to do that so we can have actual PvP of a proactive nature, rather than what we have now which is defined as CONCORD whoring.

When you speak to mercs they want people to pay them to hunt people, not to actually guard them, which would cost a whole lot more, can you really expect people to do the same in terms of AG.

At the moment hisec is a themepark for gankers...

I don't understand why gankers fail to admit that now game is very unbalanced. So much self-pride and / or individual carebears in eve? So much care for their own selfesteem to deny the simple fact that CCP made their job an easy F1 job with no consequencies?????

1. Time needed to assemble get ganker fleet vs time to get a freighter plus support fleet....like 1 to 10!!! 1 month to train a ganker alt. avg 10 month to train a pilot with freighter / pilots with specialized support. Tremendous advantage Gankers!
Also bear in mind that no support fleet will be able to support a freighter against a massive gank.


2. Cost of ganking fleet vs freighter +support fleet! ...like 1 to an average of 10. 200 mil isk a ganking fleet. 2bil at least freighter plus support. Easy to cover from loot. Tremendous advantage gankers.

3. Bad consequences....For gankers: 15 minutes criminal flag for ganking alts. Please dont say anything about sec status...u can make it back to 0 or make a another alt. For freighter pilots...a high l loss. Tremendous advantage gankers.

4. Good consequencies..For gankers: loot! For freigher pilot: nothing! Tremendous advantage gankers.


All in all, this gankers-freighter pilots fight is nowhere near to a balance.

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